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bullet Hammerstone on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 16:16:46
I have always used the default UI. Never changed it. I tried installing one of those bar addons once like X Perl or whatever and after 5 minutes of vertigo disabled and unistalled it all.

But then again, I also tank without damage meters and I don't use map mods or auction mods.

The only addon I have that I can't live without is Doublewide. I have no idea why Blizzard never made it the default quest text layout.
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 16:03:14
And if things get too hectic, follow the advice of yoga kitteh.

Link Here
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 16:01:42
Ahh, ok, I get a little more of what Curse is doing with addons, and it's not too bad.

Basically, the new commit system means the authors have to push the release on a mod before it's available from curse.com. They're working on getting everyone to do this, so that things are pushed from curseforge to curse.com.

Their bandwidth and site response has stayed really good so far.
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 15:47:28
Heh, I had a whole full FuBar, and had considered another partial bar to hide, but never went that far.

I keep a lot of things out that most people don't. I show a lot of action buttons, which I'm hoping to get rid of. I show 3 different chat windows, for 6 different channels (including guild, party, and raid) plus a small combat log. I always have full raid frames out when I'm in a raid, because I hate not knowing what's going on with the fight. I don't show people's mana anymore, and I've condensed a lot of things down.

I am planning on seeing if I can get rid of some stuff. But that's a different case than using the default UI which shows me a lot of things I don't need to see, and doesn't show me things I want to see.
bullet Psiona on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 15:45:31
My screen is so cluttered with UI stuff, people often wonder how I can see where I am going. When I need the info I focus on it, when I don't, I stare through it
bullet Evol on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 15:33:26
Well, I do have a 24" monitor, and a 60% ui scale.

I was like you as well. Wanting to see a lot of information.

Then I realized... I don't need to see all of that information. Not at once anyway. So I started looking for Fubar items that I could make visible on the fly, but not take up any screen space.
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 15:30:35
I loathe the default UI. It doesn't give me anywhere near the information I want to see.

And it wastes so much space.
bullet Evol on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 15:22:09
Ha.

Being someone who has a lot of foresight, and tries to see the big picture (lol), I removed most of my addons about a month ago, and have been getting refamiliarized with the default UI. I now have nothing that affects the basic layout of the bars and frames. (other than sRaid Frames, that is, and a beta of Cartographer I'm trying)

I use the default action bar, default map, default character UI, default party UI.

It was suprisingly easy to do. I thought it was going to be a pain. /shrug
bullet Gertrudis on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 15:16:37
I think I shall be discovering the wonders of the default UI, groan. Or bribe our resident UI guru to make something that works for me..
bullet Measles on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 15:00:38
*sigh* I'm looking for a profitable solution to being employed. I'm soooo sick of work.
bullet Psiona on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 14:53:47
The curse client isn't horrible. I've been spoiled by WUA, and I def need something that I can press a button and update all add ons with ease. Curse functions well enough for that.
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 14:49:36
Oh, everyone needs to realize, there are two patches. One is the big one that pre-downloaded, it needs to finish. That'll get you to 3.0.1. Then there's another one that will get you up to 3.0.2.
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 14:43:42
Just make new ones :)
bullet Egeria on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 14:15:01
My aged, decrepit brain has lost my curse creds and their recovery method, well, doesn't recover mucn!
bullet Maneatingcow on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 14:13:35
And I've now plugged in my external USB. Take a hike beta, I'll bring you back after Wow is working and I've defragged.

bullet Evol on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 14:08:50
The new curse client isn't 100% worse than the ace updater for me. Because the Mac Curse Client is out hanging with Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster.
bullet Maneatingcow on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 13:42:18
I think I've save all my addons for while everyone's at work tomorrow...
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 13:40:32
and BTW, if you can start getting addons now, you might want to do so. The sites are already slowing down.
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 13:38:32
Well, the new Curse client isn't as good as WAU. But I can still appreciate Kaelten's hardships that pushed the merge to Curse. Ace was never really supposed to be a release site. It just turned out that people like beta versions of things better than release versions, and it ended up getting hammered. I think it was serving up TERABYTES of data on patch days...
bullet Dandash on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 13:26:00
I haven't DLed the new Curse thing yet. A friend of mine did and said he hated it and would probably be reverting to updating things one by one.

But I'm seriously worried about having to give up FuBar >.<
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 13:15:46
And downloading from Curse invokes the name, repeatedly...
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 13:15:22
Been downloading some addons. We'll see how it goes.

It looks like Ckknight has really stopped developing stuff, or at least releasing it. I can't find updates for FuBar, PitBull, CowTip, Cartographer, or anything that he's worked on in the past (like Quartz).

I'm going to try going a different direction with addons, but after WotLK, so I do it while leveling, or at least after we stop raiding.

I've got a lot of the ones I wanted to get, some I'm not convinced about, and who knows which mods will still work from before.
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 11:45:14
Patches, I'm dependin' on ya son... to pull the client thru... My WoW is all up to you...
bullet Wildcricket on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 11:04:01
For Gert...
Link Here
bullet Dandash on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 10:50:32
/comfort Gert
bullet Gertrudis on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 10:39:17
/whimper

3 more jury trials to set this week. No defenses on any of them. Boss is in Paris.

/cry
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 10:35:23
I don't mind moving and healing at all. I think action fights are awesome, even if people can't stay out of the freakin' fire. Hell, I'd love to have some Marching Band fight where everyone has to move to form shapes or words.

It's the 'zOMG spamfasteroreveryonedies!!!!' fights that bug me.
bullet Anaea on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 10:20:43
Riprap, I hear that, and I remember Ghostcrawler saying that they want Wrath bosses to be less about threat and more about moving and healing. QQ!
bullet Dandash on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 10:17:36
Hmmm my favorite's of the modern age:

Dick Dale's Miserlu

Allman Brothers' Jessica

People ask me all the time if I'm named after the song - I tell them my parents were so awesome they named me after the song before it came out. oo
bullet Riprap on Tuesday 14 October 2008 - 10:15:11
MEC, as practicality goes... there's no difference. Not enough people believe in inherent rights of sentient beings, imo. And because they don't, the default state becomes 'You have the right to do whatever the guys with the guns let you do.'

Which is a complete and total travesty.
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bullet Riprap
21 Nov : 20:39
doh, version 3.0.1
bullet Riprap
21 Nov : 20:05
That means you've only died 10 times... since the patch for version 2.0.1 came out
bullet Evol
21 Nov : 18:32
The armory says I've only died 10 times.

Which just proves the armory lies. I'm a Tauren. I started playing in Thunder Bluff.

I've died more than 10 times just getting from Elder Rise to Spirit Rise.

In a related topic, there's no graceful way to fall off of Thunder Bluff.
bullet Singlestrike
21 Nov : 04:42
I'm still foggy and gray :'(
bullet Riprap
20 Nov : 13:48
More awesome super duper news!

*My* ICC project (not Icecrown Citadel but the Intercounty Connector) got a big stormwater approval today that lets the contractor get to work on the last 1/3 of the project. Everyone's really happy. :)
bullet Dandash
20 Nov : 13:02
Yay!
bullet Riprap
20 Nov : 12:49
Yay! UPS says it's on the front porch. Hope it's still there when I get home...
bullet Riprap
20 Nov : 12:47
In other news, hopefully my new chair gets delivered today! My old one was breaking, so I've been playing in a kitchen chair, then switched to a folding chair.
bullet Riprap
20 Nov : 12:46
I agree. It's a very significant problem to let your anxieties negatively affect those, and it's really just not acceptable to expect people who are unaware of your problem to play into them.

Most people are willing to be soothing to people having trouble, because they assume that the trouble is temporary, and not a more deep-seated disorder. When that's the issue, people need to be allowed to choose whether to continue associating with that person or not, of their own free will.
bullet Rhaina
20 Nov : 12:42
Yep, and people don't really have the right to inflict that on social groups without some kind of mediation. They guy doesn't seem to grasp that he's asking for a kind of support that is unreasonable, largely because it will never be *enough*.
bullet Riprap
20 Nov : 12:40
Well, apparently that person has some pretty bad personality disorder. Picking a bad metric and then feeling like they *must* win at it. Like having the highest post count on a forum? Having no deaths in PvP? There's some serious issues there.
bullet Rhaina
20 Nov : 12:20
Funny, Rip. I forced myself not to post in that thread. My post would have been a lot harsher than yours. Basically, "You have the right to be as paranoid and delusional as you want (although I recommend therapy to learn not to be that way as much), but you don't really have the right to subject your innocent guild members to that paranoia. If you cannot cultivate a learn-from-it-and-move-on approach to deaths in this game, but instead insist on your guildmates stroking you to make you feel marginally better about yourself for five minutes, until you need more stroking, then you have no business being in a guild."
bullet Dandash
20 Nov : 10:40
After further review, I need to /facepalm less and /hug more.
bullet Dandash
20 Nov : 10:39
And shoot, I often on purpose get killed in battlegrounds cause ressing at the graveyard can be safer than drinking.
bullet Dandash
20 Nov : 10:38
Yeaaaaah.

I haven't even looked at how often I've died. Since I PvP a lot, and am a priest....

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